Monday, November 16, 2015

NY bar resulTTTs

Cornell was so happy with the 2015 results that it reproduced the New York Law Journal's chart, below.

Congratulations to both Crooklyn and Carbozo for falling below your new peer, CUNY. Truly the sound of one hand clapping. May Fordham join you in a few years.

Finally, honorable mention to TTTTouro for plumbing the depths of bar passage rates and continuing to dig.


  1. Notice how the passage rates correlate closely to each diploma mill's respective ranking. What a coincidence, huh?!?!

    1. See this article about CUNY. When its pass rate plunged it tightened standards and brought the rate back up. Looks like most of the other schools are whistling past the graveyard. The NY Court of Appeals (= Supreme Court) needs to step in.

  2. But, but, but, according to Chief Judge Lippman ('68), law students need to do MOAR pro bono in order to sit for the bar in the first place, because underserved New Yorkers, or something like that.

    Given these pass rates, that clearly means you need to lower the 1L admission standards even MOAR, so that MOAR pro bono can be done on a net basis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. So many law schools for just one state. If all but Cornell, NYU, and Columbia closed their doors, nothing of value would be lost.

  4. What this reminds me of is the debasement of the Roman coinage.

    If I were to go back in time to the Roman Republic and try to pass off any piece of metal as a silver denarius I would be crucified as a counterfeiter. But within 70 years people would be spending disks of low grade brass with strictly theoretical silver content as though they represented a silver coin.

    With law school degrees. If I were to print on an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper the words *Juris Doctor* with a large prestigious font and below that my name. I would be considered quite mad if I hung that on my wall and claimed to be a trained lawyer. I would also be considered a felon if I were to actually practice law by dint of such a degree.
    But isn't printing off degrees for random people what Albany, New York Law School, and Hofstra are basically doing? except charging a lot of money to do it? If a school's class is almost 1/3 bar failures, can the degrees being issued be considered valid in any meaningful sense? In what way can an Albany grad be guaranteed to be better than a random person with a random piece of paper at law? These outfits can't even claim to be better than Touro. Their bar passage rates are what Touro's were a few years ago.

  5. Illinois has 9 law schools! At least NY population is not decreasing. Illinois rates just came out and the law deans at the unranked and lower tier schools are screaming and squirming. Illinois could jettison the lowest ranked law 4 schools and not be the worse off.